dug 
…Boy Scouts and S&M fetishists both spend an inordinate amount of time fiddling with rope…
I mean I don’t have a problem with pain or yuckiness or whatever otherwise weirds people out about various fetishes, it’s just that I can’t get all hot and bothered about watching someone spend fifteen minutes adjusting cross-tailed toe-loops and half-hitches around a naked woman hanging from the ceiling :-)